Did David Cameron steal from Stu Richards?

Parallel thinking · 88% similar · 2012 → 2013

David CameronSR

He's loving Engels instead

David Cameron , compared with Stu Richards

Parallel thinking#14

A Robbie Williams 'Angels' pun about a left-wing politician drifting from Marx to Engels.

Their versionDavid Cameron
“I followed very carefully his [Ed's] interview on Desert Island Discs, and I think it's fair to say, he he's no longer a follower of Marx - he's loving Engels instead.”

Prime Minister's Questions, House of Commons, 2013quote source ↗find on YouTube ↗

The originalStu Richards
“he's loving Engels instead”

Club set, 2012quote source ↗find on YouTube ↗

Why they're similar88%

Identical 'loving Engels' punchline about Miliband, but the pun is obvious enough that Cameron's writers could have reached it on their own.

  • Premise 36/40
  • Structure 22/30
  • Punchline 30/30
  • Premise36/40Same pun: Ed Miliband moving from Marx to Engels, told through Robbie Williams's Angels.
  • Structure22/30Both go from Marx to Engels; Cameron hangs it on Miliband's Desert Island Discs interview.
  • Punchline30/30The punchline is word for word: he's loving Engels instead.
Beat by beat
David CameronStu Richards

Setup

Cites Miliband's Desert Island Discs interview

≈similar

Setup

A club joke about Miliband and Marx

Turn

Miliband is no longer a follower of Marx

=same

Turn

Miliband moves from Marx to Engels

Punchline

He's loving Engels instead

=same

Punchline

He's loving Engels instead

In the words themselves

19% of the meaningful words are shared · longest identical run: “he's loving engels instead”. Shared words are highlighted in the quotes above.

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Context

When and where

Richards says he had performed the 'loving Engels' line in club sets for over a year. Cameron used it against Ed Miliband at Prime Minister's Questions in late November 2013.

What followed

Rather than complain formally, Richards wrote a parody song about the PM nicking his gag and a Chortle column on social media and plagiarism. A pun this obvious could easily have been reached independently by Cameron's writers.

Photos via Wikimedia Commons: David Cameron by Lauren Hurley / No 10 Downing Street, OGL 3

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