Did Carlos Mencia steal from Ari Shaffir?

Parallel thinking · 66% similar · earlier → later

Carlos MenciaAri Shaffir

Who builds the border fence?

Carlos Mencia , compared with Ari Shaffir

Parallel thinking#30

If the U.S. builds a fence on the Mexican border, the punchline is about who would actually be hired to build it.

Their versionCarlos Mencia

Mencia did a version of the who-builds-the-wall joke. The linked video is the 2007 Comedy Store confrontation where Shaffir's claim was aired. (paraphrase)

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The originalAri Shaffir

Shaffir says the border-fence joke was his and that he had been Mencia's opening act. (paraphrase)

Stand-up act (Shaffir had opened for Mencia)find on YouTube ↗

Why they're similar66%

Same question, same target for the payoff, but it's an obvious joke that at least two other comics, including Madigan, also told.

  • Premise 36/40
  • Structure 16/30
  • Punchline 14/30
  • Premise36/40Identical question: if the U.S. builds a border fence, who would actually be hired to build it?
  • Structure16/30Both pose the fence, then ask who builds it; neither full telling is on record.
  • Punchline14/30Same payoff target, but no wording on record, and other comics reached the same punchline.
Beat by beat
Carlos MenciaAri Shaffir

Setup

The U.S. plans a fence on the Mexican border.

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Setup

The U.S. plans a fence on the Mexican border.

Turn

Asks who would actually build the wall.

=same

Turn

Asks who would actually build the fence.

Punchline

Payoff on who gets hired; exact wording not on record.

?no record

Punchline

Payoff on who gets hired; exact wording not on record.

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Context

When and where

Shaffir's joke asks who would actually build a U.S.–Mexico border fence. Rogan raised the accusation onstage at the Comedy Store on Feb 10, 2007, and Shaffir joined him. NPR notes that at least two other comedians had made similar jokes, and Cleveland Scene (Oct 2007) quoted Kathleen Madigan doing a version ('who's gonna build the wall?').

What followed

The claim set off Joe Rogan's onstage confrontation with Mencia at the Comedy Store in February 2007, and Rogan was later banned from the club for years. NPR noted that two other comics had done similar fence jokes, which weakens any single claim of ownership.

Photos via Wikimedia Commons: Carlos Mencia by Sara Csurilla, U.S. Air Force, Public domain; Ari Shaffir by Lisa Gansky from New York, NY, USA, CC BY-SA 2.0

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